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Post by Mr42 on Sept 12, 2014 11:56:26 GMT
Meat eater
Vegetarian
Vegan
Other
What kind of food eater would you say you are.
I put 'Other' aside from just those three, because there are so many many other variants of things, and I don't recognise Pescatarian as a 'thing'. That to me is a cop out. Fish is still meat.
I was vegetarian for about 15 years, maybe a little more, but then got cravings for fish and chips, ended up eating fish again for a couple of years, but never said I was a pescatarian, I just wasn't vegetarian any more.
I am vegan now, coming up for 4 years, and, aside from a few mistakes here and there, I am absolutely happy with this choice. I definitely feel healthier and better for it, plus, being a bit of a fussy / weird eater, it's actually opened up more ideas and more experimentation for me.
Each to their own and stuff, not gonna start going on some crazed vegan crusade on here, but, yeah, just interesting to see what people are as the forum fills up.
PS, if you DO end up changing, you can change your vote as well.
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Post by billywind on Oct 14, 2014 10:45:13 GMT
I mostly have a vegetarian diet, have done for a good number of years, but only as a matter of dietary choice and not much else. I very rarely eat any meat. Couple of times in the last year.
Not bothered about what things "mean", if you get me, in so far as I don't define myself as a vegetarian in any way because it doesn't really have any great meaning to me. I don't personally think that vegetarianism/veganism is a particularly effective political or ethical choice, in terms of isolating animal products from a food chain that is unethical in much wider ways. Not that I don't appreciate the righteousness of these personal ethical choices, I just think it's about personal feelings and I don't feel the same as a lot of veggies.. deffo each to their own, it's no different to anything else in that respect. That's just where I stand on it.
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Post by Mr42 on Oct 14, 2014 11:08:27 GMT
I agree on that. It's the same as genres in music though, think it's always fun to find out.
I never really put any sort of levels of righteousness on it. I personally think it would be great if everyone were, for many reasons, but it's not my decision, and it would never happen. I guess just being more educated about everything is the least I can hope for. Where people take it after that is up to them. I think if you attribute that something is more righteous than something else, that's where people can start getting elitist and then extremist about things. I like to think that it's helping in the grand scheme of things though, even 0.000001%, and it suits my way of thinking, living and preferred foods / tastes anyway, so all the bonuses.
I was veggie for a long time, about 15 years, and then I just decided that I'd missed fish and chips, so I ate fish and chips. For a couple of years I ate fish occasionally, but didn't call myself pescatarian (that's the one that grinds my gears more than owt), but then decided I'd had enough fish and wanted to go vegan.
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Post by billywind on Oct 14, 2014 11:54:05 GMT
Aye, I think the distinction between righteous and self-righteous is important here.
It's righteous to e.g.care about animal welfare and live by your beliefs and choices, even if it might not be demonstrably "useful" to anyone else. For sure, that's cool. It is self-righteous to be overbearing and force impermutable, badly informed and ill-balanced views onto people and that's the killer, I got no respect for it.
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Post by courage on Oct 15, 2014 21:22:14 GMT
If u know there is suffering it's hard. When you've seen it with your eyeballs. I'm constantly holding back what I'd like to say because I know people don't wanna hear it and they take it the wrong way  |
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Post by Mr42 on Oct 16, 2014 8:57:08 GMT
It is sometimes hard to not say something, but then bordering on the realms of preaching or extremism doesn't do 'the cause' or whatever any favours.
Generally all I do is don't mention anything, or ignore it, if someone is talking about eating meat or posts up pictures of their meaty dinner, but then if someone asks and shows interest, then I'll tell them all about it and tell of the benefits, as far as I am concerned anyway. It's up to them if it's information they take on board and used any part of.
I've had a few people now who were either thinking of, or just turned, vegan, or veggie, and wanted advice, pointers, ideas, so of course have gone in to detail to help. I think that's the best way really, from what I've seen anyway. I don't think anybody responds well to being preached to, especially when they're generally quite resolute in what they're doing. It's the same with most things.
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Post by courage on Oct 16, 2014 22:16:00 GMT
Yes I know people don't like to feel you're telling them what is what. It's just I know meat industry is the horrific fucked up thing ever, if people could see they wouldn't eat it and none meaters want it to stop... So they're passionately talking about it and it comes across badly it's a toughy. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah  |
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Post by Mr42 on Oct 17, 2014 8:52:33 GMT
I think more meat eaters now know what goes on, and they just don't care. The usual response is 'Ah, yeah, but bacon!'. Making vegan food / meals does *sometimes* require more effort and time in preparation, but, well, I think it's worth it because it tastes awesome anyway.
I know there's more to it, than just enjoying the food, but it certainly helps with the decision.
For me, it's a combination of all the four main things...
Enjoying vegan food more than meat.
Eating meat actually makes me ill (and dairy to an extent, but not as much)
Health
Ethics
Also, once you're set up and have the initial set of supplies for having a vegan house, it's actually loads cheaper too.
Win x5
What suits me doesn't suit others though, I realise this, and people's paths in life have them see completely different things. Some people are either oblivious or desensitised or just don't need to care enough to change what they do, so, fair does... like I say, as long as people are educated enough to make an informed choice, if they still eat meat, then there's nothing else anyone else can do and I wouldn't strive to change their mind, (as much as I'd want them to), because, on the flip side, I wouldn't want someone who ate meat to spend their time trying to convince me to do it. That's why some of the crusading is a bit too much for me. I just think if it was the other way around, it would probably make me MORE resolute.
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Post by courage on Oct 17, 2014 20:18:04 GMT
Yeah that's a simple dietary thing innit. I'm on about welfare of the wanimals so... Lets be shh
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Post by Mr42 on Oct 18, 2014 15:00:35 GMT
Oh, I know what you were getting at.. but, even if people DO think it's bad what goes on with the animals, some of them still overlook it because it makes their daily lives need a little bit more effort.
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