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Post by Mr42 on Sept 16, 2014 14:08:03 GMT
Euthanasia in the UK is illegal, and in the past has been punished with up to 14 years jail sentences. Surely.. surely, it's down to every individual to have that choice, I don't see how it's anyone else's business if someone has decided they want to die, and if they have someone who is able to help them if they ask for that help, how is this even a thing that someone in power has decided they can have control over? People have to go abroad at the moment, to be able to die from their own choice. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_the_United_Kingdom“’The question for politicians in Britain today is why do you force your citizens, people in the most terrible circumstances who are determined to end their suffering in a way of their own choosing, to leave their country and travel to Switzerland to exercise their free will.’” I know it's a grim topic, I've never had anyone in my family or friends go through this, has anyone out there? |
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Post by courage on Sept 17, 2014 7:51:30 GMT
I worked in a hospital before and nearly every day someone would beg me in tears to let them die but the docs just had to keep filling them with drugs to keep them going. It gets to the point people can't wash or eat or anything by themselves, they're basically a vegetable  I do think if you want to die in dignity before you get to that embarrassing stage that should be your choice. At the dame time I understand the governments worry in legalizing euthanasia as there will always be cases where it is abused. There'd ha d to bd rules where you made that decision when you were sound of mind? |
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Post by sellotapethecat on Sept 17, 2014 9:13:56 GMT
Surely.. surely, it's down to every individual to have that choice, I don't see how it's anyone else's business if someone has decided they want to die, and if they have someone who is able to help them if they ask for that help, how is this even a thing that someone in power has decided they can have control over? I agree with this completely and the government should not have any power when it comes to what a person does with their own body. It's like the debate about abortions being illegal in Ireland and women being forced to carry a baby to full term even in rape cases. I know that's off topic but it's another example of government control in areas where they should have none. courage that is such an awful situation for the person and workers like yourself. Especially with degenerative diseases, as long as there is no abuse and the person hasn't been persuaded to end their life by another person it's shouldn't be illegal to carry out a loved one's wishes. Do you think it would work in the same way as people deciding and signing to not be resuscitated? (Not sure how that works legally) When someone travels abroad to help another person are they at risk of arrested when they get back to the UK? |
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Post by courage on Sept 17, 2014 9:21:33 GMT
Yeah it should be your choice. My grandad died in hospital, it took about 6 weeks being poked and moved and drugged up, he would have much rather just done it at home with a pill or something I think everyones too sentimental about life. |
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Post by sellotapethecat on Sept 17, 2014 9:31:03 GMT
courage  it's got to be better to have someone die in their own home surrounded by family and friends than on a hospital ward or in a hospice.
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Post by courage on Sept 17, 2014 9:40:18 GMT
Yeah it's scary in hospital poor things. Xx |
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Post by Mr42 on Sept 17, 2014 9:50:20 GMT
When someone travels abroad to help another person are they at risk of arrested when they get back to the UK? Apparently there's a few trials pending for people who have done this, and then been arrested on their return, but it sounds like they're more likely to get thrown out of court. Quite rightly too. I think there should/could be a survey done every 10 years or so, that asks questions like this, then the person can answer whilst of sound mind. I think the great debate is that, when people are in the midst of all that pain or in a coma etc., their answers might not be true to what they would say if they weren't delerious, but if it was there on public record when they were, then it should be carried out. I am putting it on record now, that I would DEFINITELY want my life to end, if I was in a fire and suffered more than 50% burns, if I'd been in a coma for more than a month, if I was in a vegetative state, suffered a heavy stroke, was pooing myself on a daily basis, all of those things. It's done for me. Sometimes even stubbing my toe makes me wish it could all be over! |
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Post by sellotapethecat on Sept 17, 2014 10:09:23 GMT
Do you reckon it could be like the donor card tick list where you choose all the situations?
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Post by Mr42 on Sept 17, 2014 11:08:33 GMT
Aye, something like that would work, or even just something online that feeds back to the NHS / whatever it's going to be in the future.
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Post by courage on Sept 17, 2014 11:44:27 GMT
Yeh it's situations when you know you're gonna die and you're in pain and they're just dragging it out for you breaks my heart. Also if I forget all my loved ones, end it for me. |
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Post by boomboom on Sept 26, 2014 18:47:38 GMT
I have no problem with people making this choice, but I really do think that the choice is going to become "the right thing to do." There was that member of the House of Lords who said "People with dementia have a duty to die... they are wasting resources."
With an aging population, and the economy the way it is, I think people are going to be encouraged to shuffle on off the mortal coil and stop being cantankerous expensive burdens who smell of wee.
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I do think if you want to die in dignity before you get to that embarrassing stage that should be your choice. At the dame time I understand the governments worry in legalizing euthanasia as there will always be cases where it is abused. There'd ha d to bd rules where you made that decision when you were sound of mind? 
